VicRoads Motorcycle Forums - Important that maximum number of riders attend

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Jacqui
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VicRoads Motorcycle Forums - Important that maximum number of riders attend

Next Tuesday night 10th November, the first of three Motorcycle Forums run by VicRoads will be held in Melbourne followed by others in Geelong and Sheparton.

This forum is the best opportunity that Victorian riders will ever get to make their concerns heard in relation to things like the levy, the TAC, WRB etc.

In some respects attending one of these forums is as significant as attending a protest ride. Probably more so because of the people who will be there to listen to what riders have to say

I urge you to try to be at one of these forums and to spread the word wide and far to encourage as many riders to attend as possible.
Details on the Forums is at:
http://motorcycleforums.com.au/
convince others to be there.

Please forward this information to a friend.
John Karmouche President  MRA(Vic)
source - email from MRA Vic

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WOW !

 

That's gotta be a first...   Transport people actually listening to riders...   I am Gobsmacked !!!  

The Vic M.R.A. are to be commended.  

Blackdeath
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 thanks for that. We're

 thanks for that. We're going!

TonyBro
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Just Registered

Hope a few other fluxers get there.

Minus273
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Yep.  I'll be there, got my reminder email last night.

Blackdeath
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 I thought it was a bit of

 I thought it was a bit of a wank. 5:30 start a tad early, 40 mins to have an open discussion to determine the fate of motorcycles and levys' on a table with 10 people and the representative a non rider, not enough time and "what the" !!!!! Apart from that  there were a few good points brought up so we'll see if any are taken seriously. We caught up with Tonybro and he was on out table so we'll see what he reckoned of it.

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Oh, the ignominy
I must get the Bonnie tarted up a bit more. A diligent Fluxer tagged her, while I was at the forum. Obviously, it blends in too much. Green, with paniers, a TB 068 plate (TonyBro/Triumph Bonneville), Tacho and knee pad additions an old Rat Bag sticker are not enough. I'll check out the bolt ons from Chimeee5's Yankee website. Maybe, I need to get out on more rides, so folk can recognise the darling. Anyhow, tagger, well done, keep up the good work. Better to over tag than not at all. Don't worry about my sensitivities, Caught up with Blackdeath and Rapunzel (was it one of you?)and we were in the same focus group to present our thoughts to VMAC. The rest of our team had similar thoughts. Bron was writing down our comments so may fill in what I miss. Our teams main point was that road and road furniture designers, makers and repairs need to me much better educated in how to make roads safer for bikes. Road users, espcially during license training, need to be ducated more about the awareness of other road users. New bikes need to know, no-one else can see them and cagers that there are invisible people carrying objects called bikes on the road. Subsidies/rebates/TAC insurance discounts/ for riders who buy and use corrective protective gear. Paul wanted a reduction in license demerit points. I enjoyed being involved and I hope something comes of it. At least we got to write down a few things for them to think about, which has got to be better than bitching about what they are doing amongst ourselves.
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With Respect to Wanking

I see Blackdeaths point. My age and understanding of the amount of wanking required to keep bureaucrats content blinded me for a while, so I sent off an email to VMAC with the following text.

 

Thank you for the opportunity to participate in this forum. Hopefully, you will be able to gain something from our input.

However, I think you have to look seriously at the time allocation of these fora.

We had 45 mins to discuss and prepare our input in a total of 3 hrs.

This would suggest you are 75% interested in promoting what you (TAC, Vic Roads, Police, DSE, VMAC) have done, or plan to do and only 25% interested in direct rider input.

Here is a suggestion for future fora.

If you did not know, before this forum, you now know, the use of the levy to make riding safer is foremost in riders consciousness.

Forget the introductions and formalities. Housekeeping OK.

Tell us what the levy is used for and how decisions are made. After a few questions tonight you know what is needed.

This should take no more than an half an hour.

Give the focus groups an hour and a half to discuss their input. Food and drink could be provided at the tables, to save the time of stopping, eating and getting people back into the forum.

The publicity can then start, while the focus group information is being processed, the results finalised and the presentation sorted out. The police and DSE presentations were worth a listen.

Give a comprehensive summary of the focus group inputs. It would be better for the groups to present their own findings, but timing is restricted. If they are not presenting themselves, the butchers paper can be replaced with A4 sheets.

I hope these comments are helpful.

I depends on whether you want to tell or listen. The indication, at the moment is; tell 75% and listen 25%.


Tony Brotherton

 

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Is there any provision for

Is there any provision for the forum attendees to participate further? I am wondring if you now have a point of entry into the whole process such that we fluxers who did not attend could voice an opinion or two.

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Feedback and further involvment.

chmeee5 wrote:

Is there any provision for the forum attendees to participate further? I am wondring if you now have a point of entry into the whole process such that we fluxers who did not attend could voice an opinion or two.

I doubt there will be much scope for an iterative process. The last set of fora was three years ago and it took that long to shift through the data and come up with their strategy, which, at least, recognises us as existing.

They will be sending reports out to people who registered for the forum as they have our contact details. I can keep you up to date with what they send me.

You could also register for the Shep or Geelong sessions and get on their mailing list, better still attend one. You could tell me whether they took any notice of my email.

If there are Fluxers registered for the 2 remaining fora, maybe we could collectively put our points through them.

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I went along but the daytona

I went along but the daytona was in for a service so I was undercover...

I had mixed feelings about the night, clearly not enough time for the round table talks to cover everything, the coppers rant was interesting but I'll beleive it when I see it.  For someone who's done a lot of kay's recently I haven't encounted one of these 'friendly takling bike cops' he speaks of, and I have plently of reasons to be pulled over, and plently of chances to do it...

It'll be interesting to see if they actually act of any of the points the groups raised, somehow, I doubt it, I hope they will like all of us, but I doubt it.

 

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